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Setting up for trail riding

Latest post 08-26-2008 7:35 PM by Link. 26 replies.
  • 08-17-2008 7:38 PM

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    Setting up for trail riding

     I have a new 900 RTV with about 26 hrs. I've here a lot of talk about bigger wheels & tires giving better performance, ie clearance. A mechanic said that theres an ajustment screw to decrease the engine brake and increase speed & power? Is any of this true? We just got back from Evert Ky. We went on some of the tuffest trailes they had. It was GREAT! We climbed hills I never would have dreamed it would climb. We just want the machine to be all it can be. Any ideas??

    hmdk

     

  • 08-17-2008 8:56 PM In reply to

    Re: Setting up for trail riding

    Hi hmdk, What type of tires do you have? I have done nothing to  alter my machine other than  aggressive 27" tires 9" wide in front and 11" in the rear.  I hear there is "coast valve" that helps with the braking. I like mine the way it is for the 100% work machine it is.Just wait till our other members show off their lights and other gear.. Fancy stick stoppers, bumpers {tommy} and other neat stuff. Bordercollie

  • 08-18-2008 5:28 AM In reply to

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    Re: Setting up for trail riding

     I have turf tires. Do the 27" tires make that much differance? Is there plenty of clearance in the wheel wells? What do you think about off setting the tires? Thanks HMDK

     

  • 08-18-2008 6:18 AM In reply to

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     astill waitin for bczoom to try the bumper and tell me what mods have to be done.

    If you can't dazzle them with perfection!Then puzzle them with bullshit!!

  • 08-18-2008 7:03 AM In reply to

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    Re: Setting up for trail riding

        Situation reminds me of the Ketchup commercial long time ago ~~~~~ Anticipation ~ (think that's how it's spelled )

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  • 08-18-2008 10:44 PM In reply to

    Re: Setting up for trail riding

      I live on a working cattle farm . some may call it a ranch but to us it is a  farm The crop land is rented out in the warm months and grazed in the winter by our animals. It has been here since 1842. Anyway there is a lot of mud and such come winter and the rainy monnths., I bought my RTV with the Worksite tires and thought I was being really smart getting all that deep tread....But I soon found out that that deep tread with the straight sides don't clean out in muddy conditions They just turn into four big slick spinners. So I found myself getting stuck all the time. I began to be sorry that I had sold my KM 3010 with atv tires.. Then I broke down and bought aggressive tread tires ... I have worn out 1 set and am working on the 2nd and haven't been stuck again. There are many threads on here about the best tires and sizes. Do a search on this site. I myself have the 27" tall  Mudlite XTR's with 9 " wide in front with no rubbing and 11" in the rear with great results. I bought polished rims  and keep the WS mounted on the original rims for emergency .  I have begun to notice some cracks along the tread line in the rear tires but the tread is very good after over 500 hrs on  this set. I have about 2180 hrs on the RTV. I would have more but have been on the skid steer this month as we are landscaping and hauling "cow"post It sure makes for good grass but don't want to haul that in my machine.!!! My tires are not off set  Good Luck   Bordercollie.

  • 08-19-2008 6:05 AM In reply to

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    Re: Setting up for trail riding

     Thanks for the info. What does the rtv look like with the 9" tires on the front. Do you have any pics you could email? hmdk@juno.com

    Thanks hmdk

     

  • 08-19-2008 6:57 AM In reply to

    Re: Setting up for trail riding

    hmdk

    Welcome to the forum and congrats on your new RTV!!

    Bigger tires will give you slightly more ground clearance but it also raises your center-of-gravity.  You haven't stated where you live or what kind of terrain you're riding on but there's some trade-off.  I live in hills and ride on pretty decent (groomed) trails so added ground clearance isn't going to buy me anything and the lower center-of-gravity is preferred.

    What's important is that you match your tire tread with your ground conditions.  Turf or worksite tires are fine for grass or hard-packed surfaces but if you drive through mud, they'll cake-up and you'll find yourself stuck.  On the opposite end of the tire spectrum are the very aggressive treads (e.g. 589's) that'll take you through anything without having traction issues.  The bad part about those is that if you drive through a turf area, such as your lawn, when the ground is soft, you'll leave all kinds of nasty divots.  In the middle are tires that can handle most situations without issue.  There's enough bars on the tires to get you through mud but they're easier on turf than their more aggressive counterparts.

    As for the "adjustment screw" the mechanic mentioned, he's probably referring to adjusting the injector pump.  It's not something I'd do if I were you as the performance improvement is negligable but if adjusted wrong, you can do some serious damage to your engine.  Oh, and you can surely bet that your warrantee is no longer valid if you do it.  There's actually tamper-proof caps over the injecter pump so you can't adjust it without it being known you've done so.

    Brian

     

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  • 08-19-2008 8:48 AM In reply to

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    Re: Setting up for trail riding

     Where in Mississippi are you located Bordercollie?  Just bought a RTV 1100 camo after reading some of ya'lls post...very impressive machine...wondering about the tires (stock ATV)...we hunt on the other side of the levee in the Delta...have pretty decent roads until the first week of rain sets in and then...well you just have a mud road...can get interesting...sounds like the Mudlite XTR setup you are running might be the answer or Two Guns 589 setup...guess I will stick with the stock until after the first week of rain and see how the stock tires do and my neck of the woods...thanks for all ya'lls input

     

  • 08-19-2008 3:39 PM In reply to

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    Re: Setting up for trail riding

     

    Brian

    I live in upstate SC. We have a little of everything. We are planning some trips and all are in the mountains. Our trip to Harlin, Ky was amazing. We climbed some very long, steep and rocky hills. Some you could barely stand on. We even went in to a rock crawling area and I knew we were going to high center. But with some careful moves it never stopped. I'm very pleased with my rtv.

    Will 2" taller tires make that much differance in the center of gravity issue? Have you had your's in the mountains? I just don't want to make a mistake.

    Thanks hmdk

     

  • 08-19-2008 6:10 PM In reply to

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    Re: Setting up for trail riding

      LINK,

                  Welcome to the forum, welcome to our world !!!!

            Don't expect to much out of the OEM tires that come from Kubota. We have a 900, and run the OEM during the hot months doing the deer management thing here. But in the very end of Oct or the first weeks of Nov. We will be needing the 589's on the machine to run in the swamps. But if you plan on doing anything in the mud, you are for sure going to have to get some deep lug grippers for the hunting thing.  We love ours, and wouldn't know how to act if somebody took it away .

         You need to step up and get yourself a high rise intake, and take your spark arrestor off your machine. Your arrestor will clog you machine up quickly, and make you loose your mind and your power . Our arrestor clogged up horribly were you couldn't even see threw the thing in a matter of hours !!!!!!!! There are post on this subject all threw the forum !!!!

           Happy to see you step in the forum, we are always here and willing to help you anytyme !!!!!!!

         Here is a pic of a forum members 1100 spark arrestor that he removed after a few hours of new operation !!!!!

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  • 08-19-2008 6:28 PM In reply to

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     i would agree 100%with yankin the spark arrestor . i took mine out of my hpx and  and my rhino  the hpx one was clogged up with soot and the rhino was clogged up with mud yep mud.i wenmuddin one good time and thats all it took it was caked with silt  wich infact looked like brown soot. so yank that arrestor fast. welcome to the forum too . me gonna get me a rtv one day then i'll be one of the crowd.

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  • 08-19-2008 8:16 PM In reply to

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     Link, I have lived in Madison county for 14 yrs. I am originally from SE Ark and have lived in Central La.[ where I went to high school and college]I will always love the delta though [hearing those mourning doves and smelling firewood burning brings back memories of my youth]. My parents moved back there from La. several yrs ago   The stock atv tire will be better than the WS for mud{ anything is better for mud than they are}}. The XTR's will mess up the yard  for sure. I will try to post a picture of my Mudlite XTR tires  this week but I warn you  , it is one dirty machine right now... Sort of embarassing in fact.   Do you have a winch? I have no opinion on then since I don't have one but other members will suggest info if you like.  Bordercollie

  • 08-19-2008 8:48 PM In reply to

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    Re: Setting up for trail riding

     If a person has to go in the mud, and one makes the decision to go with LUG style tires,  there is some things they are going to have to give up. Money is the first !!!   ( Ha-Ha )

     Riding in the front yard where the landscaped flowers are is a big NO-NO with big 'ole gripper tires. Making sharp turns with the " locker " engaged in the grass around the house is another NO-NO.  And don't run instantly out of the mud into the barn and let the machine sit overnight. Run that machine down the road or somewhere safe so one might sling all the mud out of it. For reason of come morning, you will have a barn full of mud >>>>>>>> But other than that, YOU CANNOT BEAT A RTV WITH A GOOD SET OF GROUND GRIPPERS IN THE WOODS. THESE MACHINES WILL GET UP AND PULL 'EM !!!!!!

        I can't wait to install my 589's back on this winter.  Once you run them bigger tires on the machine, and take 'em off for the summer months, sure make my RTV 900 look vulgar !!!! But baby, when they are on, the machine looks like a mad swamp spider !!!!

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  • 08-20-2008 5:33 AM In reply to

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    hmdk:
    Will 2" taller tires make that much differance in the center of gravity issue? Have you had your's in the mountains? I just don't want to make a mistake.

    2" taller tires shouldn't matter much.  Stick with tire sizes mentioned on the forum as we've all learned what the max tire size is without a lift kit.  What's key is to not get into requiring the lift kit which does raise your COG with no benefit other than getting your tires to fit.

    Not sure how you define mountains but I live in W. PA and the only thing flat here is the floor in our house.  My RTV is used a lot for processing firewood and when loaded, I do get a pucker-factor when on the side of a hill where the RTV is leaning hard due to the load (and it's a 100'+ drop off if I do tip).

     

     

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